If your healthy there is no reason to keep taking the medicine. Only one reason to stay and that is to help other people, the walking wounded.
Posts by 1234
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Are Ex-JW's Suffering From Burn Out?
by IWant2Leave inthe reason that i ask is, in the two years on this forum and you tube, i've seen ex-jw's either drop off entirely or make fewer and fewer videos.
i know the emotional toll can be high.
is that the sole reason, or is it cost (video) or do you think it's external pressure (legal or family)?
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15 yrs ago Jehovah needed $50 million for new printing presses
by Hotpepper inwhat happened to all those new printing presses?
the wt said they were going to double the amount of mag's every month.
i wonder what ever happened.
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I think about where that wasted 50 million came from.
The little girl that puts half of weekly allowance of 50 cents in the contribution box for the "world wide work" so she can get a smile from her delusional parents.
The old sister that doesn't have enough money to fix her bad teeth but puts a percentage of her SS check in the same box every month.
People like my stupid mother that left it all to the Watchtower Bible and Truck society, when she died and nothing to her kids.
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New Jobs Coming? Where Have You Worked at?
by 1234 inwith many people's jobs been put and "on hold" and other people's jobs going away for good, i couldn't help but think about all the different jobs i've had over the years.
i have been able to adapt and make do.
maybe this will kick in again....or maybe not.
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Yes you are right Stan I didn't think anyone would know what that was....lol
Your right also Smiddy this was a thread about where people have worked at....
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New Jobs Coming? Where Have You Worked at?
by 1234 inwith many people's jobs been put and "on hold" and other people's jobs going away for good, i couldn't help but think about all the different jobs i've had over the years.
i have been able to adapt and make do.
maybe this will kick in again....or maybe not.
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1234
With many people's jobs been put and "on hold" and other people's jobs going away for good, I couldn't help but think about all the different jobs I've had over the years. I have been able to adapt and make do. Maybe this will kick in again....or maybe not. I don't think of any of these jobs as better or worse....just what was necessary at the time.
These have been my vocations over the years. Please tell us what you have done in the past to put bread on table.
First job, pulling weeds in my neighbor's yard.
High school was pot washer at Italian Delicatessen and a cook at Taco Bell.
When I was Pioneering it was Sandy's hamburgers and carpet layer.
At Bethel it was Laundry, book bindery, Elevator operator and bundler on a printing press.(G job I was a clerk in a liquor store and house painter)
After Bethel it was house painter and carpet cleaner.
Then it was Trim-line distributorship in Rhode Island, Louisiana and Oregon.
Lumber broker at Suntree Lumber and Division manager at Western International Forest Products.
In 1990 I became a Real Estate Agent and broker for 22 years. I also drove cab for Radio Cab for six months when the crash in Real Estate happened in 2008.
In 2012 OPC timeshare
2012 till now owner of Sedona Wine Tours and Sedona Vineyard tours.
Unemployed.
How about you?
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Do You Feel Your Rights Are Being Trampled On By Government Regarding Coronavirus?
by minimus ini support local and state and federal government’s power to safeguard the public.
i wonder is it getting to a point where we will be told we can’t go out anymore, can’t use your phone or computer anymore because of the viruses that we can get, etc.
are we prolonging this virus at all ?
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1234
As George Carlin once said there are no such thing as "rights" there are only "temporary privileges"
Just look up Japanese Americans living in the US during World War two...what kind of "rights" did these people have?
"Right this way into the internment camp!"
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Are We Living In The Last Days?
by Vanderhoven7 injust received this note out of the blue from a pimi jw.
how would you respond?.
hi vander,.
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1234
I would text back.
Yes, I think we are living in the last days! In fact I think we are living in the last days of the last days, the very end of the last days the final few seconds of the final part of the very lasts days.....as in this is it!
However if I'm wrong about this and I have been many times.....I will deny we ever had this conversation.
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App message about jw.org HQ
by Gorbatchov ingot this week a message from a jw friend about the jw.org headquarters move to warwick.. the message shows how even rational witness (my friend is a rational businessman) share the jw emotional madness that's going arround the jw social media now.
how sad!
read for your self:.
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1234
"We do not know why Jehovah encouraged us to leave, but later it will become clear." So the prayers went out.
"Please Jehovah what should we do?"
"We have millions in law suits and are short on funds. We could start selling off Kingdom halls....or all of our property in Brooklyn. Or, we could just turn of the list of pedophiles to the authorities....and save thousands of our young children in your organization the pain, shame and sometimes even suicide."
"What!" said Jehovah. "And make me and my organization look bad all over the world!...better sell that shit off!"
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Do you have any evidence that the GB had bad intent?
by AlainAlam indo you have any evidence that the gb had bad intent?
as opposed to blind faith/cognitive dissonance and honest mistakes.. i'm inclined to think they have the best of intentions and are just wrong (primarily because the bible is wrong), but i'm willing to consider the evidence otherwise..
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1234
Well how about when Leo Greenless (Governing body member) was caught having sex with young boys....what did the GB do to him?
Disfellowshiped? Nope!
Public reproved? Nope!
Sent to Mexico and be a Special Pioneer so he could screw more young boys? Yep!
Read my book....
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The Tale of Two Loves. Part 2
by 1234 inabout the time i got married, gayle got married too.
gary her soon to be husband was the first brother to show her any attention, after we went out separate ways.
she knew she wasn't in love with him but at the time wasn't sure she even knew what love was anymore.
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The Tale of Two Loves. Part 2
by 1234 inabout the time i got married, gayle got married too.
gary her soon to be husband was the first brother to show her any attention, after we went out separate ways.
she knew she wasn't in love with him but at the time wasn't sure she even knew what love was anymore.
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About the time I got married, Gayle got married too. Gary her soon to be husband was the first brother to show her any attention, after we went out separate ways. She knew she wasn't in love with him but at the time wasn't sure she even knew what love was anymore.
She told me later she knew she was making a big mistake marrying Gary and thought about backing out of their engagement, up to the day of their wedding. Her family said it was too late and "she needed to do the right thing." She walked down the aisle wishing she could scream and run out of there.
Any doubts she had about Gary were confirmed before the honeymoon was even over. Maybe Gary could sense her apprehension because no sooner were the "I dos" said, it was like a switch had turned off.
The seemingly attentive Gary, turned into "I'm the head of this Christian Household" lord and king and you my obedient wife and will be treated like the rest of my personal property.
She too found out like many young Jehovah's Witnesses do on their wedding night, that they have married someone who they are not sexually compatible with. What a surprise, the sex was terrible....and will be for the remainder of their married life.
Like myself, not ever enjoying good sex before marriage how would they know? For me it would be 30 years after I got married before I ever enjoyed that wonderful sexual connection with another person. Someone who is there with not just their body but their soul too. The same is true for my ex-Jehovah's Witness wife. From what I hear, she is finally with someone she is sexually compatible with also. Her soul mate.
If you are a young, virgin (as most of them are) Jehovah's Witness, you are really rolling the sexual compatible dice on your wedding night.
She like me, both got snake eyes.
Gary becomes and elder and more distant and abusive as he wheeled his authority, sanctioned by his male dominated organization. Plenty of time to meddle in other people's lives in the Kingdom Hall, while spending little time with his own wife and four small children.
Fast forward, another loveless Jehovah's Witness marriage, filled with meetings, field service, raising children and praying for Armageddon to come to make it all better.
At least with death you can get out of a bad marriage, however in the new system you can be married to this p***k for eternity!
Everyone has their breaking point. After years of neglect and abuse Gayle found hers.
Gayle somehow met Ray, a worldly man. One thing turned into another. She had found something she had never experienced before... passion. There was lots of motel rooms and glorious sex. Ray had the key to her soul and he use it to show her who she really was.
However, there was a lock that Ray couldn't open because Gayle was something else too. Up to meeting Ray she was a good Jehovah's Witness. Maybe her marriage was flawed but her religion was not. Up to Ray, she was devout and never committed even the slightest offence against her church and God.
So now of course the pleasure would be met with the pain. Lies, sin, adultery and the shame of those things that would follow after her confession.
She would confess of course because she must and because Ray had given her something else too. He had impregnated her with her fifth child and his first.
She would still crawl back to her husband and organization and beg for their forgiveness.
How would her husband and church respond to her heart felt repentance?
What would happen to her marriage, her children and love child?
Part 3 tomorrow
Keith Casarona